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of course, also notably you got the likes of christina bob and forest epstein. the skills of the heart of the conspiracy that kris mayes, the attorney general, lays out. >> we were just showing that video before we should also note as context, we're going to dig into these charges here, that the notion that the fake electors scheme itself was a criminal enterprise is reflected, too, in the rico indictment in georgia were fake electors are also part of that criminal indictment and an investigation that has been ongoing in michigan, as well, where some of those fake electors have been charged. arizona joins a number of states where the fake elector plot with being pulled off and after some investigation, grantors concluded that there was probable cause to indict for a crime with respect to their activities. >> absolutely, and at the heart of this indictment is the fact that the john eastman allegedly calls rusty bowers, who is the republican speaker of the house and after doug ducey had already certified the results and folks may recall the day that literally doug
of course, also notably you got the likes of christina bob and forest epstein. the skills of the heart of the conspiracy that kris mayes, the attorney general, lays out. >> we were just showing that video before we should also note as context, we're going to dig into these charges here, that the notion that the fake electors scheme itself was a criminal enterprise is reflected, too, in the rico indictment in georgia were fake electors are also part of that criminal indictment and an...
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and so it is a little bit curious as to why christina bob is charged here, but not elsewhere. now obviously, to shams point, there may be different levels of cooperation among other witnesses and so on. but it is interesting because it's the same conduct nationwide. why charged in some places, but not others? >> yeah. >> there's so much legal news happening. we were waiting on the supreme court hearing tomorrow on whether donald trump has immunity. we're also waiting for corn to resume at the bretton, the same in time tomorrow in new york. the judge there has not yet ruled on whether donald trump violated his gag order. why not? i don't know what he's waiting for and he met a rule before tomorrow. i mean this is an issue where time matters. donald trump is violating this gag order almost on a rolling real-time basis. and the longer the judge takes, the more time he allows for these ongoing violation so i do think we're guessing here, but i do think we're going to get a ruling right at the open of the trial day tomorrow. i think it's going to be a stern reprimand of donald trum
and so it is a little bit curious as to why christina bob is charged here, but not elsewhere. now obviously, to shams point, there may be different levels of cooperation among other witnesses and so on. but it is interesting because it's the same conduct nationwide. why charged in some places, but not others? >> yeah. >> there's so much legal news happening. we were waiting on the supreme court hearing tomorrow on whether donald trump has immunity. we're also waiting for corn to...
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do any of those et christina, bob a news anchor for the far-right network, oa. and i believe do any of those names surprise you, rusty? >> no, it doesn't surprise me no. not at all. i mean, i did i did get calls from some of them not bob. i never talked to hurt others, yes and tim of those people were famously mr.. stayed involved did videos of themselves and other things rusty it's sad to see it come to this that we make well vary my comment other than say yeah, they did kill me they did. >> well the other person in here, unindicted coconspirator number one, i just want to read you how he's described unindicted coconspirator number one, rusty, on page 21, a former president of the united states who spread false claims of election fraud following the 2020 election rusty, are you surprised that donald trump is unindicted coconspirator well i'm not that prosecutor. >> i'm not i'm not an advocate. i'm just a witness. i only talked about things that happened to me and i can, you know, i could i mean, from your perspective as a witness, does that does that surprise y
do any of those et christina, bob a news anchor for the far-right network, oa. and i believe do any of those names surprise you, rusty? >> no, it doesn't surprise me no. not at all. i mean, i did i did get calls from some of them not bob. i never talked to hurt others, yes and tim of those people were famously mr.. stayed involved did videos of themselves and other things rusty it's sad to see it come to this that we make well vary my comment other than say yeah, they did kill me they...
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the point is he said took a bigger swing than some might have expected. >> you have christina, bob, who is an anchor for the far-right network, right on there as well? yes. so i think that's true and i think in both michigan and arizona shoes, she's an endodontic coconspirator i think i believe and again, that goes to mind my point of i can see them fashioning this in a way that tries to scope in all the people who actually contacted fake electors, organized fake electors, helped policy-wise in terms of how they were going to do this, which would include epstein so i think that's that seems to be the distinction that they use in identifying the people that they were going to mention in the indictment, either as unindicted coconspirators or actual defendants. i do think that epstein is fascinating as a defendant in this case. as you know, from your conversations with tim parlatore& jim trusty, they're not going to lose any sleep over borse is fate tonight. >> and know he's been with trump a lot. mean everybody was going down for the mar-a-lago indictment. appearances me he's of all these
the point is he said took a bigger swing than some might have expected. >> you have christina, bob, who is an anchor for the far-right network, right on there as well? yes. so i think that's true and i think in both michigan and arizona shoes, she's an endodontic coconspirator i think i believe and again, that goes to mind my point of i can see them fashioning this in a way that tries to scope in all the people who actually contacted fake electors, organized fake electors, helped...
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christina bob was just named the rnc's election into the chair. they have no sense of humor, do they? trump has not been charged and he is described in the documents as an unindicted co- conspirator one catalyst for the whole plot to overturn his election defeat. representatives are mark meadows and rudy giuliani deny that they have been charged with doing anything. it was revealed that trump was also an unindicted co- conspirator in the michigan case as well. joining our coverage, founder of the site democracy darkest, mark elias. he is also the author of a new book, minority rule, the right- wing attack on the will of the people and the fight to resist it. maia is also back. talk about arizona and something i try not to do what without warning, mark elias. it is good, right, to see justice grind. i feel like you and ari berman have been on the show, talking about the lies behind january 6th and the equally insidious suppression laws that were run through after since the earliest days of 2020. the important point seems to be even with the success
christina bob was just named the rnc's election into the chair. they have no sense of humor, do they? trump has not been charged and he is described in the documents as an unindicted co- conspirator one catalyst for the whole plot to overturn his election defeat. representatives are mark meadows and rudy giuliani deny that they have been charged with doing anything. it was revealed that trump was also an unindicted co- conspirator in the michigan case as well. joining our coverage, founder of...
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bob. boris epstein and -- mike roman. the defendants are charged with conspiracy, fraud and forgery, all felonies. for scheming to prevent the lawful transfer of the president keep unindicted co-conspirator one in office against the will of arizona voters. unindicted co-conspirator one, is donald trump. all of this comes as trump already faces 88 criminal charges across four jurisdictions. he is currently on trial in new york facing 34 charges related to election interference and business record fried. tomorrow morning, the supreme court will be hearing arguments in his immunity case, were trunk claims he cannot be prosecuted by special counsel jack smith in the federal january 6th election case against him. joining me now is -- von hillier. i know you have been reading into this and going through the indictment. first of all, set up what happened here in terms of the investigation, whose office did the investigation, how long it took and what attorney general mays announced today. >> it i
bob. boris epstein and -- mike roman. the defendants are charged with conspiracy, fraud and forgery, all felonies. for scheming to prevent the lawful transfer of the president keep unindicted co-conspirator one in office against the will of arizona voters. unindicted co-conspirator one, is donald trump. all of this comes as trump already faces 88 criminal charges across four jurisdictions. he is currently on trial in new york facing 34 charges related to election interference and business...
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including christina bob, who, let's remember, just a few weeks ago, she was named by the rnc to run the election integrity committee. which is fun to think about that. just a moment. now she is indicted in this alleged scheme. so, danny, why not ask about donald trump's rolling all of this and he could potentially be listed as an unindicted co- conspirator 1, so he has not been indicted here, what does that mean? what are they saying about appear? >> what is amazing is he has been an unindicted co- conspirator. number one, he was individual number one, when michael cohen came into federal court and pleaded guilty. so, trump is no stranger to be an unindicted something who is named in a criminal document. whether it be an indictment, an complaint. so, is this bad for donald trump? yeah. i mean, what we are seeing is that it is up to-- when you talk about the several states, any county prosecutor could decide, hey, you know what? this affected our state, our county, the attorneys general could do the same thing, and you know, going back to why so long? what was the delay all about? i tota
including christina bob, who, let's remember, just a few weeks ago, she was named by the rnc to run the election integrity committee. which is fun to think about that. just a moment. now she is indicted in this alleged scheme. so, danny, why not ask about donald trump's rolling all of this and he could potentially be listed as an unindicted co- conspirator 1, so he has not been indicted here, what does that mean? what are they saying about appear? >> what is amazing is he has been an...
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bob, and john eastman, yet another attorney and trump legal adviser in the aftermath of the 2020 election. these are very real charges, of very real crimes, allegedly committed at the highest levels of the trump campaign and the trump white house. trump himself is charged in george's indictment. seven states with fae collectors were nevada, arizona, new mexico, wisconsin, michigan, georgia, and pennsylvania. as we said, we have seen charges in four other states, now. all seven of these states are key battleground states that could be decisive in this year's election. joining me now is ryan j riley, justice reporter friend he and the author of "sedition hunters, how january 6th broke the justice system." here's the thing. that george indictment is so detailed, it has text, communications that go beyond georgia, to pennsylvania, to michigan, to arizona, the information is not new to us. the degree to which this was a sophisticated effort to overturn democracy is clearer and clearer with each indictment. >> it's true. even in the supreme court, what was interesting is you have trump lawyers
bob, and john eastman, yet another attorney and trump legal adviser in the aftermath of the 2020 election. these are very real charges, of very real crimes, allegedly committed at the highest levels of the trump campaign and the trump white house. trump himself is charged in george's indictment. seven states with fae collectors were nevada, arizona, new mexico, wisconsin, michigan, georgia, and pennsylvania. as we said, we have seen charges in four other states, now. all seven of these states...
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bob, who was a trump attorney, a former trump attorney. she's also a former oan host, and notably she was just actually appointed to a job at the republican national committee as counsel for election integrity of ironic, when up here. but look, i want to the republicans in the state are already pushing back on this indictment. the attorney general here isn't democrat, and the arizona gop is saying that this is basically a politically motivated distraction. they said in a statement, a blatant that this was a blatant. and an unprecedented abuse a prosecutorial power aimed solely at distracting the public. jake hoffman, one of those fake electors from arizona, who is also a sitting state senator also pushing back and saying that this was politically motivated and being very clear that he says, let me be unequivocal. i am innocent of any crime in this case. but look, the wheels of justice will play out here as we've seen in other states, michigan georgia you did say that trump is not indicted in this case, but he is listed as unindicted cocons
bob, who was a trump attorney, a former trump attorney. she's also a former oan host, and notably she was just actually appointed to a job at the republican national committee as counsel for election integrity of ironic, when up here. but look, i want to the republicans in the state are already pushing back on this indictment. the attorney general here isn't democrat, and the arizona gop is saying that this is basically a politically motivated distraction. they said in a statement, a blatant...
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he's immensely involved in the campaign christina bob, who's in your she's the one who signed that letter at mar-lago saying there's no more classified documents here to the best of my knowledge, she's also a senior counsel on election integrity for the rnc right now. i mean, it's the web is admits. >> yeah. but look, it's almost like you're in a different world. there is what is happening in these court documents in these cases then there is the former president and all these people who are under indictment and carrying on their lives as if it's not happening schedule. >> thank you for being with us everyone else stick around. >> we've got a lot more ahead. we are monitoring some breaking news, though, out of california, there is a standoff ongoing right now between police and protesters on the campus. of usc. dozens have already been arrested. this is just one of the chaotic scenes as playing out across american campuses tonight. crowds protesting israel's war in gaza. let's go live to nick watt they're at usc, nick what's happening in this moment well, abbe, the arrests are underway, m
he's immensely involved in the campaign christina bob, who's in your she's the one who signed that letter at mar-lago saying there's no more classified documents here to the best of my knowledge, she's also a senior counsel on election integrity for the rnc right now. i mean, it's the web is admits. >> yeah. but look, it's almost like you're in a different world. there is what is happening in these court documents in these cases then there is the former president and all these people who...
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, bob, as well as top campaign aide boris epstein. >> trump himself was not charged in this case, but he is named as an unindicted coconspirator. >> let's go and cosine national security reporter zachary cohen, who is in arizona right now. so zach, what do these indictments say about this so-called fake electors plot. and what are the charges they are now facing yellow or donald trump may not be charged in this indictment, but it does outline it and entire conspiracy alleged conspiracy it revolves around donald trump and it charges several people who are very close in on trump, especially in that period right after the 2020 election, where he was trying to overturn the election results and especially here in arizona, it was targeting arizona along with six other key swings dates to try to flip that electoral count from biden to trump and look, there's 11 electors plus seven really close trump allies that are charged here. >> the electors, we always assume that this imbalance destination was focused on the electors themselves. but we've had reporting in the last few months that there w
, bob, as well as top campaign aide boris epstein. >> trump himself was not charged in this case, but he is named as an unindicted coconspirator. >> let's go and cosine national security reporter zachary cohen, who is in arizona right now. so zach, what do these indictments say about this so-called fake electors plot. and what are the charges they are now facing yellow or donald trump may not be charged in this indictment, but it does outline it and entire conspiracy alleged...
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they include key trump aides rudy giuliani and former trump attorney christina bob. she was just named the rnc's election integrity chair. these people have no sense of humor. while trump has not been charged, he is described in the charging documents as unindicted co-conspirator one. the catalyst for the whole plot to overturn his election defeat. representatives for meadows and giuliani deny that they have been charged with doing that. it was revealed that trump was also an unindicted co-conspiracy in michigan as well. mark alias joins me. with me at the table, ari berman is here. maya is also back. i want to talk about arizona. i want to do something i try not to do. i want to talk about this. you feel like you and ari have been on the show talking about the lies behind january 6 and the insidious voter suppression laws that were rammed through afterward, since the earliest days after 2020. the important thing at this point seems to be even if arizona prosecutes the fake electors, it's not going to save us. no one is coming to save us. people have to understand th
they include key trump aides rudy giuliani and former trump attorney christina bob. she was just named the rnc's election integrity chair. these people have no sense of humor. while trump has not been charged, he is described in the charging documents as unindicted co-conspirator one. the catalyst for the whole plot to overturn his election defeat. representatives for meadows and giuliani deny that they have been charged with doing that. it was revealed that trump was also an unindicted...
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alongside the rnc senior counsel for so-called election integrity, christina bob. you couldn't make this stuff up. joining our conversation, contributor and columnist charlie sykes and donnie and claire are still with us. charlie, it is not accurate to say everyone in the republican party is a conspiracy theorist. but as with racist, all of the conspiracy theorists are republicans. >> i've seen that out of georgia it was cult like. an think about, to your point, that not every republican goes along with this. think about the politics in georgia. you have the republican governor of republican, brian kemp and the republican secretary of state brad raffensperger, and you have leading election expert like gabe sterling, all of whom are republicans who have said over and over again, donald trump did not win the state of georgia. we have one audit after another. and yet this is what the cult requires in every one them raised their hand, even though this is been refuted over and over again by the fact. but also by other republicans. which makes this -- i think a particula
alongside the rnc senior counsel for so-called election integrity, christina bob. you couldn't make this stuff up. joining our conversation, contributor and columnist charlie sykes and donnie and claire are still with us. charlie, it is not accurate to say everyone in the republican party is a conspiracy theorist. but as with racist, all of the conspiracy theorists are republicans. >> i've seen that out of georgia it was cult like. an think about, to your point, that not every republican...